"Science Refutes God" Debate

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I just finished watching the "Science Refutes God" debate.  Although I am not a huge fan of Krauss and Shermer, I thought they did a decent job.  As I was watching, I nearly jumped out of my seat with some arm-chair quaterbacking..."ask this next!!!".  D'Sousa claimed that the Bible predicted the Big Bang (i.e. universe from nothing) thousands of years before science.  He also admitted that the day and night before the Sun was not true (around 1 hr and 20 minutes in), was refuted by science, and was really the product of a fundamentalist reading of the bible.  The next question out of Krauss' mouth should have been, "by what criterea do you decide what is true in the Bible?"  What D'Sousa was doing was saying that, where we have learned things from science and one can plausibly read the Bible in the same way, then that is true in the Bible.  Otherwise, it is false in the Bible.  In this case, the Bible is making no predictions, because it has many claims which cannot be demonstrated to be true except through science.  It's like you rattle off a whole series of random digits, like (and I did this by computer):

3, 6, 4, 3, 1, 0, 2, 9, 7, 8, 6, 4, 1, 1, 6, 8, 9, 5, 3, 4, 0, 6, 9, 9, 4, 6, 4, 9, 6, 9, 3, 8, 6, 8, 3, 9, 6, 9, 8, 1, 4, 0, 9, ...

and then noting, hey, this starts with a "3", and look at some of the other digits (in bold):

3, 6, 4, 3, 1, 0, 2, 9, 7, 8, 6, 4, 1, 1, 6, 8, 9, 5, 3, 4, 0, 6, 9, 9, 4, 6, 4, 9, 6, 9, 3, 8, 6, 8, 3, 9, 6, 9, 8, 1, 4, 0, 9, ...

you see the digits of pi!  (a small note - I was planning on running the random number generator many times, to make sure that this example started with 3, to make my point about the starting value, and lo! it came up the first time anyway!)

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